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Walking In Early May 2017

Discussion in 'Camino Primitivo or Original Way' started by Nico, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. Nico

    Nico New Member

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    Hey all!

    I walked the whole French Way last year in three and a half weeks. It was an experience.

    This year I'm looking for a more lonesome and close to the nature experience, luckily I got a friend with me, or it would otherwise be to lonesome for me and maybe little risk.

    We are walking del Norte/Primitivo.

    Anyone else interested let us know.
     
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    The Camino Norte and Primitivo will certainly be a Lot less travelled route than the Camino Frances – But is still quite popular (The Camino Norte is probably the 3rd most popular Camino behind The Frances and Portuguese) – But is still an Excellent Choice as the scenery is Splendid and the infrastructure is very good, there are plenty of Albergue’s so as to keep the costs down and lots of places that offer special pilgrims menus.

    I have written my own trek notes on these routes in the link in my tagline IF you want to take a look.

    Good Luck and Buen Camino

    Rob
     
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    Nico New Member

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    Thanks,

    We plan to camp on the northern route. It's mountainous area, remote and Castile and León is known to have a population of 1000 wolves. Are wolves and wild boers something we should keep in mind at night?
     
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    Hi again Nico

    I didn’t encounter any wolves or wild Boers and there was a solo female also packing a tent and occasionally camping out and she didn’t suffer anything untowards either ;-) - So I don’t think you have any cause for worry :)

    I look forwards to reading about your adventure on here

    Good Luck

    Rob
     
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    oldman Oldman Donating Member

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    Hi all Old man walking again.
    I fly into Asturias on the 1st July booked into Pensión Romero, Oviedo on the 1st and 2nd July to start walking on Monday 3rd. The stages I hope to do are Oviedo , Grado , Sales , Tino , Pola de Allandato , ( return bus/taxi to borrés ) ruta Hospitales - Berducedo , O Castro , A Fonsagrade , A Cádavo-Baleria , Lugo , A Pen de Galina , Melida , Arzúa , O Pedrouzo , Santiago on the 16th and 17th ( booked into San Martín Pinario ). Home on the 18th.
    Any hints on what to miss or not along the way . or maybe place to eat or stay in or around the stages I have planed. or to definitely avoid.

    Buen Camino.
     
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    Wily Camino Francés 2016; Camino Portugués 2017

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    Hey Oldman - Sounds like a great trip coming up! Let me just offer you a couple albergue recommendations.

    Melide - Albergue San Anton. Modern and clean and just a few steps off the Camino. Nice backyard and laundry facilities.

    O Pedrouza - REM Hostel. Just a block off the main avenue. New albergue with great showers. Along the main street is a pulporia where I had some of the best octopus on the Camino.

    Santiago - Good choice of the San Martin Pinario. Stayed there just a month ago. Excellent location. For an extra 6€ enjoy their full continental breakfast.

    Buen Camino!
     
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    oldman Oldman Donating Member

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    Thanks for that Wily.
    Have B&B booked in San Martín this will be my 4th time ,I stayed there in 2013 and and 2015 not booked just walked in as I was passing by .
     
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    Rob, me and my friend where quite disappointed with these routes.

    I enjoyed the French route much more, as you got closer to the Spanish people, culture and urban life, walking that route.

    I was expecting Norte to be remote, but 90% of the time it was highways, traffic, and walking through large cities. Just a few times you got close to the sea and nature. It was not a peaceful experience I was looking forward to.
     
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    Nico, thanks so much for this report. The Norte does seem to get mixed reviews. I'm thinking of jumping down from Moissac on the Le Puy to do only a few select sections of the Norte on the way to the Primitivo. Can you or anyone give feedback?

    - Moissac - train to Bordeaux -Hendaye overnight (or Irun, either one)
    - Next morning, walk the bridge to the ALSA station in Irun, take ALSA to Santander, see a bit of Santander.
    - Next morning walk the Santander coast around - supposed to be an especially beautiful walk, but difficult - to around Soto de la Marina overnight
    - Next morning continue to Boo de Pielagos and catch the FEVE onward to Barreda and walk the 7.6K to Santillana del Mar. See the caves if have time.
    - walk to Cobreces, which is supposed to be a good walk and town.
    - walk to Saint Vicente de la Barquera - overnight
    - catch FEVE onward to around Pendueles and walk the coast to Llanes
    - walk Llanes to Nueva (or could take FEVE)
    - Nueva to Ribadesella. Onward on ALSA to Oviedo that day or next.

    That's about 7 days of walking, and some can be cut off by taking the FEVE or an ALSA if people found any of those stretches unpleasant. I don't care about doing every meter of the Norte - just want to enjoy a bit of the coast on the way to the Primitivo.
     
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    C4S: As you say, there are differing opinions on each route. We liked everything! However the stretch between Bilbao (get out of the city first) through Pobena, Castro Urdiales, Laredo, Guemes to Santander was wonderful, and lots of non-road walking except the last hours arriving at Guemes. Santander to Santillana del mar, Cobreces, and San Vincente are long and lots of roads. But from then on through Llanes is great!
     
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    Thank you so much, Calowie! That's really helpful. I've got notes from your Primitivo blog also. Would you recommend taking the Cercanias out to Portugalete then, to minimize the city exit from Bilbao?
     
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    C4S: Yes, I would take the subway out of downtown bilbao to portugalete. You still have to walk on city streets but you will skip the not so scenic industrial area. Once you leave portugalete you come to what seems to be a paved bike path/walk way that goes on for kilometres, and takes you most of the way to Pobena. THis will not take long and you easily can continue from Pobena on the same day- and this goes on paths on the cliff side of the ocean!
     
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    Excellent! I'm glad you mentioned this stretch as good to do and I appreciate the detail. I've done some modifying to reduce the road walking on the later stretch to Saint Vicente de la Barquera also. That's the goal - some cliffside walks and ocean views (and maybe some really good food too!). Thanks, Calowie!
     
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    Hi Nico

    Sorry to hear that you were disappointed with your Camino Norte – It’s Amazing how different people have totally differing experiences as I really enjoyed my own Camino Norte.

    OK – Some of this could have been because of the people I met en-route, and on The Camino Norte, as there is only a fraction of the amount of pilgrims walking the route compared to The Camino Frances and therefore not as many options for accommodation, it’s far more likely that you keep coming across the same people :)

    As for interaction with locals, again, I also found this a lot easier on The Camino Norte compared with The Camino Frances, again, I put this down to there being far less pilgrims walking the route !!??

    I don’t recall there being significantly more road walking on The Camino Norte compared to The Camino Frances - I used to take photos for http://santiago-compostela.net/routes/ these photos were taken of the route about every 1km so that everyone could compare different routes and see what sort of terrain they would encounter – I have just had a very quick refresher and certainly can’t immediately see that there are huge differences between the amount of road walking on The Camino Norte compared to The Camino Frances !!???

    Perhaps it’s just a case of different people having different experiences and based on that, I would just do what you feel like C4S and then please tell us all what your own thoughts on the route are :)

    Best Regards

    Rob
     
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